X-Git-Url: https://git.ucc.asn.au/?p=ipdf%2Fdocuments.git;a=blobdiff_plain;f=irc%2F%23ipdf.log;h=a01fd200c85ae7f051185d94fe017b3a58350d9a;hp=c6f8b59b7b31e664f76289487e43e9328cabcdf7;hb=HEAD;hpb=883801b25a2b3b3f6b784d7f213b92aa20f777f2 diff --git a/irc/#ipdf.log b/irc/#ipdf.log index c6f8b59..a01fd20 100644 --- a/irc/#ipdf.log +++ b/irc/#ipdf.log @@ -6640,3 +6640,487 @@ 00:00 -!- Pommers [bobgeorge33@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 00:02 -!- bobgeorge33 [~bobgeorge@pommers.org] has joined #ipdf 00:17 -!- bobgeorge33 is now known as Pommers +09:47 -!- Pommers [~bobgeorge@pommers.org] has quit [Quit: This Shouldn't Be Happening] +09:47 -!- Pommers [bobgeorge@pommers.org] has joined #ipdf +13:34 < matches> My presentation is tonight +13:34 < matches> Looks like Tim is back just in time to watch it! +14:50 < sulix> In order to break things at exactly the wrong moment, IPDF has a profiler now. +14:50 < sulix> It dumps the time spent in various functions at the end of each frame. +15:10 < matches> That's pretty awesome +15:11 < matches> Ok, time to test this pdf in adobe reader... +15:11 < matches> And scream if it doesn't work +15:19 * matches screams +15:20 < sulix> Oh dear... +15:20 < sulix> The power of adobe! +15:24 < matches> I bet the videos don't work either +15:26 < sulix> What format are they in? +15:26 < matches> mkv +15:26 < matches> They work +15:26 < matches> I guess it was too much to expect pdflatex to produce a valid pdf +15:35 < Pommers> Latex PDF? Got it working yet? +15:55 < matches> No +15:56 < matches> I have narrowed it down to +15:56 < matches> "Cannot include graphics in slides" +15:56 < matches> Which will make for an amazing presentation +15:58 < matches> Ah +15:58 < matches> Adobe doesn't support including pdfs within pdfs +15:58 < sulix> What!? +15:59 < sulix> Man, I've included pdfs within pdfs in pretty much every assignment I've submitted ever. +15:59 < matches> I don't know +15:59 < matches> That's the first place it shits itself +15:59 * sulix ponders whether or not this may have affected marks. +15:59 < matches> Debugging by repeatedly commentint out bits of TeX and recompiling is not very efficient and/or fun +16:00 < sulix> Worst comes to the worst, take screenshots of all of your slides, I guess... +16:00 < sulix> (Or download a windows binary for evince/etc and put that on the thumb drive) +16:02 < matches> Yeah I'm supposed to be registering now +16:25 < Pommers> matches: Send me the tex source and I'll try +--- Day changed Wed Oct 15 2014 +10:38 < matches> Frames compiled it for me on Windows, so I survived +10:40 < Pommers> Yeah. That's what I was going to do +10:40 * Pommers should really set up that build server properly +13:18 < matches> I might have promised a Windows version in the talk... +13:18 < matches> Also saving, loading +13:18 < matches> And... +13:18 < matches> Shading +16:05 < matches> I wonder if I can hack in a "draw" mode... +16:05 < matches> Now that the conference is over, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE +16:06 < matches> (Except there's only two weeks left) +16:06 < matches> ... < 2 weeks left +--- Day changed Sun Oct 19 2014 +14:48 < sulix> Far out: I'm looking up some IEEE GPU stuff, and Google keeps pointing me to your lit review. +17:01 < matches> :S +17:02 < matches> I need to muster the courage to write more of my report +17:02 < matches> So tired +--- Day changed Mon Oct 20 2014 +22:45 < sulix> So it turns out that the crazy multithreadedness of the control panel totally bollockses up the profiler. +22:46 < sulix> Which explains the random crashing due to "impossible things happening" like "functions returning before their parents do". +22:49 < sulix> The everything gets bollocksed when adding text bug is also fixed. +22:50 < sulix> The magical invisible turtles bug remains. +22:51 * sulix wonders if he should see the teenage mutant ninja turtles movie for an explaination. +23:48 < sulix> For reasons unknown, I'm generating a lot of quadtree overlays with the exact same objects in them. +23:48 < sulix> By which I mean the same {object_begin, object_end} pairs. +23:49 < sulix> So lots of things are being rendered ~40 times, and many things aren't being rendered at all. +23:51 < sulix> Actually, never mind, I'm just printing out the wrong thing in my debug statement. +--- Day changed Tue Oct 21 2014 +00:48 * sulix has a lot of writing to do tommorrow. +00:48 < sulix> By which I mean today. +09:02 * sulix ->sainity-- +09:30 < Pommers> Morning +11:07 < matches> :( +11:11 * sulix has engaged "panic mode" +11:12 < Pommers> Can you try and shake it off? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM +11:12 < sulix> Also "holy shit, I don't have any results other than SIGSEGV" mode. +11:20 < matches> I wish I hadn't read the comments on that video +11:24 < matches> I'm having trouble understanding the metaphor +11:24 < matches> Is Taylor Swift meant to be the thesis or me +11:25 < matches> And how is the illuminati involved +11:28 < Pommers> Never read YT comments +11:28 < Pommers> Metaphor? Th[4~esis? Illuminati? +11:34 < matches> "Haters gonna hate" would be me hating the thesis, but the thesis being an inanimate and currently purely digital object would be unable to shake itself +11:35 < matches> According to the comments Taylor Swift is in the illuminati +11:35 < sulix> The only shaking I can imagine is the solemn shaking of heads. +11:35 < matches> :( +11:35 < Pommers> Or +11:36 < Pommers> Does your thesis hatre you, hence it's not happening +11:36 < Pommers> and therefore you need to shake it off? +11:36 < matches> Perhaps the clue is in the name, in that we need to Swiftly apply Taylor series to things +11:38 < sulix> matches: That is the only consistent interpretation. +11:38 < matches> I regret catching up on 6 weeks of lectures instead of working on the thesis +11:40 < matches> http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/374.html +11:40 < sulix> http://phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1749 +11:42 < matches> Back to it I guess +11:42 < matches> By which I mean back to spending 30 minutes mentally preparing myself to go back to it +11:43 < Pommers> While you relax +11:43 < Pommers> You could fix NTP on your laptop +11:46 < sulix> better still, set the time to three days ago so that you have more time to work on the thesis. +11:47 < Pommers> Thats's a good idea! Just avoid anything that relies on time +11:49 < sulix> The number of sudden thoughts about much better ways to do this project is slightly terrifying. +12:44 < sulix> /me suspects he's deleted more than he's written. +13:02 < sulix> Someone's looked at quadtrees for "infinite bitmaps": http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/104609/infinite-bitmap +13:44 < sulix> Knuth apparently does not like the term "mantissa". He has quite a rant about it and now I'm feeling guilty for using it. +13:47 < matches> Let's face it, Knuth won't read our work, and if he does, he won't like it +13:48 < sulix> I had a nightmare where Kahan was berating me for not understanding floats. +13:49 < matches> You don't even need to write about floats? Do you? +13:49 < matches> Also, should I be urgently producing graphs of how slow rationals are +13:50 < matches> I have 6662 words, but this is really not good +13:51 < sulix> I'm sort-of leaving the "results" section blank at the moment. +13:51 < matches> Wait but what else do you need? +13:51 < matches> Lit Review should be done* +13:52 < matches> There is a "Methods" chapter which I'm a bit embarressed about +13:52 < sulix> Also, I should push the "speed up everything because it was dodgy renderrange code that was taking >90% the time" fix at some point. +13:52 < matches> How badly would pulling break everything... +13:52 < sulix> I've been writing up how the quadtree works, and fixing up the lit review, intro, gpu float bits, etc. +13:53 < sulix> Well, I don't think I've been brave enough to push yet, but probably it will break everything. +13:53 < sulix> Though, with some small amount of luck, it should still compile. +13:56 * sulix has pushed. Time to warm up your "git revert" commands. +13:57 < sulix> Also I need to write up about how rationals can represent more things than the quadtree, which can only represent binary fractions. +14:18 < matches> "A naive approach would be to simply replace all floating point operations with arbitrary precision operations, and this is in fact what we did before we realised how stupid that was" +14:21 < sulix> I was going for "A naïve approach would be to simply replace all floating point operations with arbitrary precision operations, and unlike the quatreethulu, that does actually work." +14:21 < matches> How do you get the ï in LaTeX +14:22 < sulix> \"i +14:22 < matches> Thankyou +14:25 < matches> Is there a good reference I can cite for how shaders work... +14:25 < matches> I really don't want to or have the space to explain the OpenGL API +14:25 < sulix> The OpenGL spec? +14:25 < matches> I guess +14:25 < sulix> Or ARB_vertex_program / ARB_shader_program +14:25 < sulix> s/shader_program/fragment_program +14:47 < matches> You know I am linking to the git repository in my report +14:47 < matches> The one with all the "My eyes, they burn!" commit messages... +14:48 < matches> I figured that the markers assuming there wasn't version control was marginally worse than them reading my commit messages +14:48 < matches> But only marginally +14:49 * sulix wipes some nervous sweat from his brow. +14:50 < Pommers> What did you do for commit messages? +14:50 < matches> Usually stuff to the effect of "This code is awful" +14:50 < matches> "I didn't even design this!" +14:50 < matches> Etc +14:51 < sulix> Pommers: cover your eyes: http://git.ucc.asn.au/?p=ipdf/code.git;a=shortlog +14:52 < sulix> My favourite is "A Song of Floodfills and Segfaults" +14:52 < Pommers> haha +15:11 < sulix> matches: Any idea why "bezier.h:61:20: error: call of overloaded ‘Abs(Gmprat)’ is ambiguous" +15:13 < sulix> Also: "rect.h:21:13: error: no match for ‘operator<<’ (operand types are ‘std::basic_ostream’ and ‘const IPDF::Rational’)" if I try Rational +15:37 < matches> Aaaah +15:37 < matches> It wasn't ambiguous when I last used it! +16:03 * sulix squirms nervously. +16:06 < matches> I finally made the performance test graphs +16:06 < matches> They are kind of dodgy +16:07 < sulix> Ooh... show me. +16:13 < matches> http://szmoore.net/ipdf/sam/figures/time.pdf +16:13 < matches> http://szmoore.net/ipdf/sam/figures/memory.pdf +16:13 < matches> It's using eye_of_the_rabbit.script +16:14 < matches> It keeps track of how much memory is used for the View width +16:14 < matches> And how long it takes to do each cycle that involves adding 3 rabbits seperated by 1e-3 or whatever it was +16:14 < matches> A totally arbitrary test but hey, the graph is linear +16:15 < matches> I'm pretty fed up with this project at this point +16:15 < matches> Words are on the page +16:16 < matches> It's amazing how much less you have to write when you remove the "TODO: I really should explain this properly" +16:19 < sulix> Those are with the Gmprat for path bounds, doubles? for beziers? +16:21 < matches> Gmprat for path bounds +16:21 < matches> Not really much point doing it for anything else +16:21 < matches> Since anything else won't render the images correctly +16:21 < matches> I guess I should do it for doubles as well +16:22 < matches> Actually doubles would be able to render that particular script correctly +16:22 < matches> For a long time +16:23 < sulix> The quadtree can render it correctly until there is more than one rabbit. +16:23 < sulix> Also eye_of_the_rabbit is cpu rendered by default, no? +16:24 < matches> Yeah I changed it to make that test +16:24 < sulix> Okay. +16:24 < matches> I'll run it for mpfr-1024 path +16:24 < matches> I've had enough of having to tweak things to recompile the software... +16:25 < matches> So I'm limited to the binaries I already have and they have a habit of sigfpe'ing +16:26 < matches> Oh, it was also done with the window hidden +16:26 < sulix> By choice or by fglrx? +16:26 < matches> By choice +16:31 < matches> Urgh this project is dumb +16:31 < matches> I really don't want to have to repeat my final year project :S +17:17 < matches> How do you like being referred to as "Gow" +17:17 < matches> Also it's been an hour or so without me saying this project is silly +17:17 < matches> So I'll say it again +17:18 < matches> I ended up putting the Circles on CPU/GPU in my "Lit Review" part... +17:18 < matches> Because it just fit a lot better underneath the section that was actually talking about it +17:18 < matches> Rather than in the results +17:19 < matches> "By the way we did some circles too" +17:19 < matches> I feel like I should say something snarky about the naive method not being worthy of publication... +17:19 < matches> That might be a bad idea +17:29 < matches> "Hi all, No doubt you are busy preparing your final report..." +17:29 < matches> AAAAAHHH +17:30 < matches> I don't know, there's only so much you can polish a turd.. +17:30 < matches> Holy shit how do I have 40 references +17:30 < matches> I guess there was that "Look I read about GPUs [10 references]" paragraph +17:31 < matches> Should I mention the arbitrary precision on GPU stuff +17:31 < matches> Blargh +17:41 < matches> "The main body of the report should be between 6,000 and 8,000 +17:41 < matches> words excluding appendices. (i.e. from the beginning of the +17:41 < matches> Introduction to the end of the Conclusions/Future work section)." +17:41 < matches> Finally found the word limit +17:41 < matches> Dammit +17:41 < matches> Here I was aiming for 6000 maximum... +17:44 < matches> I can stick in the pointless sections about "Pixels or Perish" I guess +17:44 < matches> Distract them with pretty pictures +17:47 < matches> Takes me up to 46 references... +17:47 < matches> And 6972 words +17:47 < matches> Done +17:48 < matches> Submit +18:21 < sulix> I think your thesis is significantly better than mine. +18:22 < sulix> Mostly because it has more results and less "TODO" +18:26 * sulix seeps into a 20 minute come. +18:26 < sulix> s/come/coma +18:26 < sulix> (The state of my brain is becoming more and more evident) +18:55 < matches> (The trick is to delete the TODOs) +--- Day changed Wed Oct 22 2014 +12:50 < matches> ECM sent me an email about 2015 Final Year Project preferences... +12:50 < matches> NO +12:50 < matches> I already did this! +12:50 < matches> They also sent me an email about submitting vacation work reports +12:50 < matches> I didn't do that yet! +12:51 < matches> This is what you get for totally ignoring the recommended degree progression +17:17 < Pommers> Guess who has card access through the main door for CS xD +17:18 * sulix is filled with a jealous rage. +17:20 < Pommers> hehehehe +17:20 < Pommers> Pretty sure I now have more Access to CS than both of you :D +17:54 < matches> They'll probably be glad they get to revoke our access at the end of the year +17:54 < matches> Doing other assignments is a nice distraction from the project although in terms of time investment it is not wise +17:54 < matches> In terms of time investment the correct approach is to fail everything else +17:55 < matches> Although that didn't work so well last semester +17:55 < matches> (I didn't actually fail but my marks got consistently lower :( +17:55 < matches> I don't know how to bracket that +17:55 < matches> :() +--- Day changed Thu Oct 23 2014 +18:12 < matches> My report scores a Flesch Reading Ease of 42.30 +18:12 < matches> Which is higher than "university graduate" and lower than "13 to 15 year old students" +18:13 < matches> It scores a Flesch-Kincaid Grade of 12.44 +18:13 < matches> I guess that means it is high school level... +18:13 < matches> That isn't as reassuring as I'd hoped... +18:14 < matches> At least I'm beating "an average 6th grade assignment" +18:17 < matches> My physics thesis is 39.90 and 12.99 indicating my writing has gotten dumber, as expected +18:19 < matches> Yours is at 46.06 and 11.39 +18:19 < matches> The question is, what should we be aiming for... +18:21 < matches> That was an interesting but not particularly productive diversion into readability of documents +18:21 < matches> (I think the most this test can conclusively say is that we did indeed write some words) +18:21 < matches> (Many of which had more than one syllable) +19:40 * sulix shall have words with "an arbitrary number of syllables" in his thesis. +19:41 < sulix> Also, it turns out printperf has a big #ifdef QUADTREE_DISABLED around it. +19:41 < sulix> Which explains much. +19:59 < sulix> Did you know: when rendering with GMPrat, sometimes the debug text displays the bounds as being totally wrong for a frame, and then they're back to normal. +20:00 * sulix has found something even more fun than watching paint dry: watching gmprat render. +20:16 * sulix now has a graph: http://davidgow.net/stuff/ipdf-gmpqttest1.pdf +20:54 < matches> Cool +21:16 < matches> That looks very similar to the turtles graph I just got +21:16 < matches> Except qtree isn't on it +21:16 < matches> Path-gmprat is my favourite +21:29 < matches> Ok, I know it's only 9:28 but my clock says 5:28 +21:29 < matches> So that counts as bed time +21:30 * matches tries not to think about the asignment due tomorrow or the 3 weeks of assignments that need to be marked before students start to hate me +21:30 < matches> Or, for that matter, how he is going to explain Quantum Mechanics... +21:31 < matches> Or CoderDojo... +21:31 < matches> I must be getting old +21:31 < matches> Back in 2012 I could work on my thesis until 5am and still be awake enough to do my other assignments :S +21:32 < matches> That might be a slight exagerration, I think there was a large amount of feeling like death involved +21:36 < matches> I used to know the quantum number selection rules off by heart too... +21:41 < matches> Ahh, the amazing HTML formatting of the quantum mechanics webpage +21:41 < matches> The memories +--- Day changed Sat Oct 25 2014 +11:26 * sulix will not be able to make coderdojo today, for obvious reasons. +11:26 < matches> Ok, good luck +17:39 -!- sulix [sulix@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the ghoti] +--- Log opened Sun Oct 26 14:54:49 2014 +14:54 -!- matches [matches@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has joined #ipdf +14:54 -!- Irssi: #ipdf: Total of 4 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] +14:54 -!- Irssi: Join to #ipdf was synced in 3 secs +14:55 < matches> Very much in the "The referencing doesn't produce ?? submit it" phase +14:57 < matches> Ah crap the referencing still produces ?? +14:57 < matches> But only in the appendix... +15:50 < matches> I get to submit this to a "Printerface" +15:50 < matches> Oh ho ho +15:53 * sulix has had the joy of having to redo his data with vblank off. +15:54 < sulix> Also, the random flickering bug is actually showing up in the graphs +16:02 < matches> Yuk +16:03 < matches> So you have loads of data now though? +16:03 < matches> I had vague plans of redoing graphs and then apathy happened +16:03 < sulix> Yeah, lots and lots of graphs and numbers. +16:03 < matches> Cool +16:04 < matches> I just have like, 3... +16:04 < sulix> I extended the profiler to also output the number of objects in the document and rendered +16:04 < sulix> (Well, I only have 3 interesting graphs) +16:05 < sulix> The quadtree spens 23.7% of its time generating new nodes. +16:05 < sulix> (In case you cared) +16:05 < matches> Only 23.7%? +16:05 < sulix> Yup. +16:06 < sulix> It generates at total (during the zoom-in-on-grid test for 800 frames) of 219 nodes. +16:06 < sulix> And clips a total of 6559 objects +16:07 < matches> I'll email what I have. +16:07 < matches> Prepare to be whelmed. +16:07 < matches> Oh dear I just quoted *that* movie +16:09 < sulix> I'll email mine when I've finished regenerating all of the graphs and stats with non-vblanked data. +16:10 < sulix> (The quadtree is now officially 2127 times faster than naïve use of GMP rationals) +16:12 < matches> I think naive use of GMP rationals is a slightly unfair benchmark... :P +16:12 < matches> But it'll make for impressive graphs +16:12 < sulix> The requested URL /sam/ipdf/thesis.pdf was not found on this server. +16:13 < matches> /ipdf/sam/thesis.pdf +16:13 < matches> Also attached it to the email +16:13 -!- Irssi: #ipdf: Total of 4 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] +16:13 < sulix> Also, "Wintrhop Professor". +16:13 < matches> Oh boy +16:14 < matches> Wait where does it even say that... +16:14 < matches> Oh +16:14 < matches> The damn letter +16:19 < matches> Yeah going by the rubric I think I'll have a solid 1/4 average +17:05 < sulix> Again, the closer this project is to being due, the more interesting mathematical things I'm finding that I wish I'd seen earlier. +17:06 * sulix slips a small reference to the Riemann Zeta function into a footnote. +17:23 < matches> I'm concerned about the lack of interesting mathematical things in my thesis, footnote or otherwise +17:24 < matches> I think I'm allowed to call it a thesis since that's what I was supposed to put on the "letter" +17:25 < matches> You can't diss this ertation +17:25 < matches> That worked in my head +17:25 < matches> synonyms.. +17:25 < matches> monograph +17:26 < matches> disquisition +17:26 < matches> disquietening +17:26 < matches> composition +17:26 <@bobgeorge33> When does Tim officailly start work again? +17:26 < matches> in the key of F# minor +17:26 < matches> Um +17:26 < matches> Next year? +17:27 < matches> Someone has to write a "supervisor report" +17:29 < matches> Well, I at least have lots of words +17:29 < matches> Too many to proof read +18:07 < matches> It has been submitted to the Printer Face +18:07 < matches> Good luck sulix +18:10 * sulix solemnly nods: "Good luck to us all!" +23:34 < sulix> It is done: http://davidgow.net/stuff/DavidFYPThesis.pdf +23:38 <@bobgeorge33> When are they due? +23:42 <@bobgeorge33> Lastly, as a double degree student I need to +23:42 <@bobgeorge33> express a double degree of thanks to my friends and family for their continued patience whilst I +23:42 <@bobgeorge33> completed my second “final year” project in what is technically a penultimate year. +23:42 <@bobgeorge33> Very nice +--- Day changed Mon Oct 27 2014 +08:46 < matches> They're due at 12:00pm +09:00 < matches> Hmm, there are only a few highly wrong statements in my thesis +09:01 < matches> To resubmit or not to resubmit +09:03 < matches> I keep thinking I really need more detail and then I realise it's 9000 words... +09:03 < matches> What did I even say in those 9000 words I don't even +09:04 < matches> In other news it's 9:04 and no one is at my tutorial... +09:05 < matches> I was going to show them CQM animations +09:09 < matches> Curses a student +09:09 < matches> (I don't know what I want) +10:15 * sulix resubmits to fix the typo in the latin reference that Tim disconvered. +10:16 < sulix> I've also added the original proposal as an Appendix because apparently I'm meant to, though it does sort-of highlight how little of it I've actually done. +10:19 * sulix proceeds to collapse from exhaustion. +10:44 -!- Netsplit mussel.ucc.au.uniirc.com <-> arctic.uniirc.com quits: @bobgeorge33 +10:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @bobgeorge33 +11:11 -!- Netsplit mussel.ucc.au.uniirc.com <-> arctic.uniirc.com quits: @bobgeorge33 +11:12 < matches> Aaaand +11:12 < matches> LMS is being LMS +11:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @bobgeorge33 +11:13 < matches> UWA is having problems? +11:13 < matches> Trying to resubmit to Printer Face +11:13 < matches> Not sure if I am now going to end up with two copies... +11:14 < matches> The second copy is slightly less vague +11:14 < matches> I guess people can work out that they need to read IEEE to get the full gory details of the encodings and stuff +11:15 < matches> Also people can probably work out the legends on my graphs if they think +11:15 < matches> Also there is like, wierd functional programming notation in Tim and Rowan's emails +11:15 < matches> Is it a secret code? +11:23 < matches> AAAH SHIT +11:23 < matches> My last commit is going to be at 7:23pm +11:23 < matches> I'll get in trouble for using a time machine to submit it before 12:00pm +11:40 -!- Netsplit mussel.ucc.au.uniirc.com <-> arctic.uniirc.com quits: @bobgeorge33 +11:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @bobgeorge33 +11:42 < matches> Well, that as anticlimactic +11:43 < matches> The whole having 3 other assignments due this week thing sort of ruins it +11:51 -!- Netsplit mussel.ucc.au.uniirc.com <-> arctic.uniirc.com quits: @bobgeorge33 +11:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @bobgeorge33 +11:53 < matches> I actually really don't trust someone else to print my assignment :S +11:53 < matches> Who is this Printer and why does it have a Face +11:54 < matches> What if the inline postscript gets interpreted by the driver as actual postscript and it just prints 40 pages of shape.eps +11:54 < matches> Aaaah +11:56 <@bobgeorge33> What happens if it decides to print 100 copies instead of 1 and they aren't collated! +11:59 * matches stabs +12:01 < matches> sulix: "Programmme" +12:01 < matches> Does it have three mmm like that +12:01 < sulix> Um... it does now. +12:02 < matches> I approve +12:02 < sulix> I am a programmmmmmer +12:03 -!- Netsplit mussel.ucc.au.uniirc.com <-> arctic.uniirc.com quits: @bobgeorge33 +12:04 -!- bobgeorge33 [bobgeorge@pommers.org] has joined #ipdf +18:38 -!- bobgeorge33 is now known as Pommers +--- Day changed Thu Oct 30 2014 +13:45 < matches> sulix: Is there going to be a meeting about your presentation? Should I come, or stay away? +14:16 < sulix> I don't think there's going to be a meeting... I've got another research project due at 4:00, so I'll be doing that. +14:16 < sulix> The seminar schedule is out now, though: http://undergraduate.csse.uwa.edu.au/year4/Current/Project/seminarTimetable.html +14:17 < sulix> It's hysterically empty. +14:28 < matches> Baha +14:29 < matches> 25 minutes, ew +14:29 < matches> Good luck +14:29 < sulix> You're welcome to come along to the talk if you hate sleep. +14:29 < matches> I will try and come +14:30 < matches> "Time travel debugging"... +14:30 < sulix> Yeah, Ben's a genius. +14:30 < matches> I do that all the time though +14:30 < matches> (With printf statements) +14:30 < sulix> But you live in the future. +14:30 < matches> (And scrolling through the output with less) +14:30 < matches> That too +14:31 < matches> Don't worry, your abstract sounds really cool too +--- Day changed Sat Nov 01 2014 +10:27 < matches> I guess we're done here, good job +--- Day changed Tue Nov 04 2014 +14:30 < matches> We will leave this channel here until the marks come out +--- Day changed Sat Nov 08 2014 +23:00 -!- Pommers is now known as bobgeorge33 +23:00 -!- bobgeorge33 is now known as Pommers +--- Day changed Tue Nov 11 2014 +22:57 -!- sulix [sulix@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] +--- Day changed Wed Nov 12 2014 +11:50 -!- sulix [sulix@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has joined #ipdf +--- Day changed Fri Nov 14 2014 +22:48 -!- msh [~matt@evil.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has left #ipdf [] +--- Day changed Sun Nov 30 2014 +12:08 < Pommers> When are marks due out? +12:46 < matches> Well +12:46 < matches> Other unit results are due on the 17th so I assume these are as well +12:51 < matches> I will just continue to be thankful that my 2012 results are listed first on my academic record... +13:26 < Pommers> Yes That is always the bust thing +13:55 < matches> The best thing about those results is the totally vague unit names +13:55 < matches> "Special Topics in Physics I, II, III and IV" +--- Day changed Mon Dec 01 2014 +14:03 < sulix> Hmm... it looks like my project marks are on csmarks. +15:20 < Pommers> fuck +15:22 * Pommers loves scaling +21:31 < matches> Oh dear +21:32 < matches> Mine are not :S +21:33 < Pommers> Don't fret +21:34 < Pommers> Looks like they've pulled the marks now +21:34 < matches> -_- +21:34 < matches> But I wanted to know +21:34 < Pommers> Wait. I'm just blind +21:35 < matches> I could check LMS +21:35 < matches> CSMarks evil step cousin +21:35 < matches> It seems to just be a weekly "RETURN ANY KEYS BORROWED" +21:36 < Pommers> LMS says I got 57% for the unit +21:36 < Pommers> "equal 16th / 35 in cohort" +21:36 < matches> ... I still have - out of 100% for the Semester 1 progress report +21:36 < Pommers> The average was below my mark +21:36 < Pommers> 14 people sitting on 0% though >.> +21:36 < matches> That's wierd +21:36 < matches> Scaling is wierd +21:38 < Pommers> But i love it +21:38 < matches> I wish the culture was "we will do an amazing job on the unit and its assessible content so that everyone gets a mark that is indicative of their knowledge" not just "screw it we'll scale everyone" +21:38 < matches> But apparently apathy averages out better than diligence +21:39 < matches> If lots of people got 0% that would make scaling do strange things +21:39 < matches> How much magic do they do to make it a normal distribution +21:40 < matches> Well I guess they just scale everyone who got more than 0% and it will maybe be normal +21:41 < matches> Good luck anyway +21:42 < matches> I suppose around December 17th I'll start to get nervous about my "0/300" score on LMS +--- Day changed Thu Dec 11 2014 +05:31 -!- Matta [Honda@2.27.186.90] has joined #ipdf +05:31 -!- Matta [Honda@2.27.186.90] has left #ipdf [] +19:28 < matches> :S +19:29 < Pommers> Tis a boty +--- Day changed Sat Dec 13 2014 +10:18 < matches> Well thank goodness that's over +10:19 < matches> It was certainly an interesting if not very mechatronical project +10:21 < sulix> Yeah... I'm sure one day I'll be able to use floats again without developing a nervous twitch. +10:22 < sulix> Although they never asked me to do corrections, which is odd because there's at least the "programmme" mistake there. +10:22 < matches> I just started reading my thesis... +10:22 < matches> There are some rather cringeworthy sentences +10:23 < matches> The pretty pictures as a distraction paid off +10:24 < sulix> I've no plans to read mine again just yet... I suspect all of the good parts were the puns in TeX comments. +10:42 < matches> One day I will try and run ipdf again +10:42 < matches> And it will probably segfault +--- Day changed Mon Jan 12 2015 +19:22 < matches> It's 2015, we can probably assume we got away with it now +19:26 -!- Irssi: #ipdf: Total of 3 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] +--- Day changed Wed Jan 14 2015 +20:53 < matches> I have to confess a horrible crime. I took a screenshot of graphs instead of saving them as pdfs. +20:53 -!- matches [matches@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has left #ipdf ["The shame is too much"] +--- Log closed Wed Jan 14 20:53:48 2015 +--- Log opened Wed Jan 14 20:57:00 2015 +20:57 -!- matches [matches@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has joined #ipdf +20:57 -!- Irssi: #ipdf: Total of 3 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] +20:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #ipdf was synced in 0 secs +20:57 < Pommers> It's okay matches +20:57 < Pommers> This is a safe space +--- Day changed Mon Jan 19 2015 +10:30 -!- sulix [sulix@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the ghoti] +10:30 -!- sulix [sulix@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] has joined #ipdf +--- Day changed Wed Jan 21 2015 +20:40 < matches> Good luck at google sulix