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 00:25 < sam_moore> ... 12 pages... :S
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+03:08 < sam_moore> Oh hi Calum
+03:09 < sam_moore> Heh, I suppose people are staying up late fretting about the report since I haven't updated it in a while...
+03:09 < sam_moore> Mwuhahaha the power
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+05:43 < Callum> so you've pulled an all nighter too then i take it?
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+06:50 < Callum> morning jeremy
+06:50 < jtanx> morning Callum
+07:20 < jtanx> stupid server
+07:20 < jtanx> losing time...
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+08:26 < jtanx> just ran a spellcheck
+08:26 < jtanx> hopefully haven't broken anything...
+08:27 < jtanx> the refs.bib on github is out of date
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+09:43 < jtanx> damn
+09:43 < jtanx> running out of time to edit this...
+09:44 < jtanx> I'll be at uni from 12pm onwards
+09:44 < jtanx> I managed to cut it down a small amount, but not nearly enough
+09:45 < jtanx> I have a feeling that shrinking some of the images may help to reduce it, or to move some to the (an) appendix like the pinout diagram
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+12:18 < jtanx> just saw the extension...
+12:21 < jtanx> how do you cite a subsection
+12:21 < jtanx> No extra software should be required from the client. Detailed reasons for this choice are outlined in Section ??
+12:23 < jtanx> oh, right
+12:23 < jtanx> \ref{Alternative Communication} --> \ref{Alternative Communication Technologies}
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+12:35 < jtanx> There are a few references that are not linking properly
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+12:48 < sam_moore> Yes, sorry, I screwed up the labels a bit
+12:48 < sam_moore> I had them all fixed, and then I decided to name the labels logically (ie: Actually after the section)...
+12:48 < sam_moore> So now it's broken again
+12:48 < jtanx> Haha
+12:49 < jtanx> So I guess we're meeting not today, but on monday?
+12:49 < sam_moore> Yeah, sure
+12:49 < jtanx> okay
+12:49 < jtanx> I'm in g19 right now, but I'll probably go soon then
+12:51 < sam_moore> I think the report is pretty good
+12:51 < jtanx> Yeah, it looks good
+12:51 < sam_moore> It always seems like there are bits missing though
+12:51 < jtanx> I'm glad you stuck with LaTeX after all :P
+12:51 < sam_moore> Yes...
+12:51 < sam_moore> It's all worth it for \gitref
+12:51 < jtanx> Hahaha
+12:51 < jtanx> the clicky links is cool
+12:52 < jtanx> it doesn't list out those links though, does it?
+12:52 < jtanx> like a reference
+12:52 < sam_moore> Hopefully that makes up for some of the disorganisation
+12:52 < sam_moore> No, it doesn't list them as references
+12:53 < sam_moore> We could probably make Rowan's figures nicer by redoing them with a "connected" system, but I don't want to edit other people's stuff more than necessary
+12:53 < jtanx> Yeah
+12:53 < sam_moore> Since it seems like doing that will get me in trouble
+12:54 < jtanx> The only thing that irks me a bit is the first-person stuff in the camera section
+12:54 < jtanx> But as you said...
+12:54 < sam_moore> I'm not sure I got the camera figures right
+12:55 < jtanx> time for more proofreading!
+12:55 < sam_moore> They were all over the place and underneath each other and not labelled when I downloaded the document
+12:55 < jtanx> :S
+12:55 < sam_moore> I think I screen shotted the right ones, but even in google docs some of them were underneath each other
+12:56 < jtanx> google docs doesn't display them properly I think
+12:56 < jtanx> I can upload a pdf version
+12:56 < jtanx> ...if I can find the current version
+12:58 < sam_moore> It's interesting that the dilatometer wasn't working so well the other day
+12:58 < sam_moore> Given that those test images look pretty close to the real image
+12:58 < sam_moore> And they seem to show good results
+12:58 < jtanx> Yeah, it was a bit disappointing
+12:58 < sam_moore> Although I guess that is just one frame
+12:59 < sam_moore> I forgot, we need to recommend that the edge detected image can be shown through the API somehow
+12:59 < sam_moore> ...
+12:59 < sam_moore> I think the best way to do that is just to add the canny edge algorithm to "image.c" and allow Image_Handler to call it if needed
+13:00 < sam_moore> Abstract out all the image procesing stuff to "image.c" and then the dilatometer "sensor" will eventually just become a set of wrapper functions :P
+13:01 < jtanx> Yeah, i think there needs to be some redesign of that image stuff
+13:01 < sam_moore> The way all the other sensors/actuators work is that as much stuff as possible is abstracted out to make it really easy to customise them
+13:02 < sam_moore> Eg: If you were manually doing the file system operations for each actuator/sensor... eww
+13:02 < sam_moore> Images should be similar
+13:02 < jtanx> ummm 
+13:02 < jtanx> yeah
+13:03 < jtanx> not sure if it's useful, but...
+13:04 < jtanx> https://drive.google.com/a/student.uwa.edu.au/file/d/0ByHupdgjAZ9XaHF6djdJc0RvLVE/edit?usp=sharing
+13:04 < jtanx> callum's stuff in pd
+13:04 < jtanx> f
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+15:21 < jtanx> hello
+15:21 < Callum> hey
+15:22 < jtanx> how's life
+15:22 < Callum> ok 
+15:22 < Callum> that appendix reference
+15:23 < jtanx> yeah?
+15:23 < Callum> was because i put the canny edge figures in an appendix
+15:23 < jtanx> okay, so would that now be figure 2.17
+15:25 < Callum> technically no, im reffering to 2.17 C-F but without the edge line superimposed onto it
+15:25 < jtanx> sure
+15:26 < Callum> also is the other thing you were referring to when i said graphs instead of figures?
+15:26 < Callum> must of glanced over that in my proof read
+15:26 < jtanx> "The results can be seen in figure 2.14. From the graphs (Figure ??)
+15:27 < Callum> change graphs to figure
+15:27 < jtanx> figure 2.17 again?
+15:27 < Callum> no
+15:27 < Callum> its referring to 2.14 still
+15:27 < jtanx> okay
+15:27 < jtanx> seems a bit redundant, with the previous sentence
+15:28 < Callum> yea. remove previous sentece and say From figure 2.14 it can be..
+15:28 < jtanx> Sure
+15:33 < Callum> also
+15:33 < Callum> 2.17A and B are the same thing?
+15:33 < Callum> ones meant to be grayscale
+15:33 < jtanx> so they are...
+15:33 < jtanx> woops
+15:44 < jtanx> okay, it should be fixed (in my repo for now)
+15:50 < Callum> thanks
+15:57 < jtanx> no problem
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+17:32 < jtanx> Callum: are you sure you want to leave your section in first person?
+17:33 < Callum> hmm. has everyone else done 3rd? 
+17:33 < jtanx> I think the rest of it is in 3rd
+17:34 < jtanx> it's up to you though
+17:34 < Callum> well the way i understood it was we were writing about what we did, but if the rest is in 3rd then should probably change it to be consistent
+17:34 < Callum> we did individually*
+17:34 < Callum> probably doesnt matter
+17:34 < Callum> better to go with consistency
+17:36 < Callum> most of mine is in 3rd anyway ahah.
+17:37 < Callum> just change the first person ones to third then. or i can..but il need to learn how to modify this stuff
+17:37 < jtanx> you can just modify your original .doc one and I can probably then make the changes
+17:37 < jtanx> if you feel more comfortable with that
+17:37 < Callum> it would be easier to modify the final one surely
+17:38 < jtanx> Okay
+17:38 < jtanx> Well the stuff is in Design.tex
+17:38 < jtanx> hmm
+17:38 < jtanx> I should probably just merge my stuff first
+18:07 < Callum> hmm i should probably go through and fix/make sure references to images are right. i originally had 5 edges images, and sam im presuming? removed the one i was using in the progression
+18:08 < jtanx> probably
+18:08 < Callum> as i split it in two (one set of images shows 1 images progression, other just shows the end for different values)
+18:08 < jtanx> he had some issues reading your original images correctly afaik
+18:09 < Callum> hmm. il look into it soon
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+18:37 < Callum_> yea the images arent referenced properly
+18:39 < Callum_> also make reference to an image he removed
+18:48 < Callum_> can the figure removed be added back and 2.17F be moved to before the current 3?
+18:48 < Callum_> or atleast just the second request
+18:48 < Callum_> zz. by current 3 i mean the 3 before it
+18:48 < jtanx> well, what figure are you referring to that's been removed?
+18:48 < Callum_> in my original document
+18:48 < Callum_> 2D
+18:48 < Callum_> 2C*
+18:49 < Callum_> but as 2F is the same original image
+18:49 < Callum_> i can just change the values i refer to
+18:49 < Callum_> 2.17F
+18:49 < Callum_> i must sound pretty confusing right now.. :p
+18:49 < jtanx> yes...
+18:50 < Callum_> ok. 2.17A,B,F are all from the same original image, C,D,E are from another (which i dont actually show anywhere..oh well)
+18:51 < Callum_> in my text i refer to an image which is comment to A,B,F but isnt actually there. but i can change the values i say is used to make it equivalent to F
+18:51 < Callum_> TBH i'd probably prefer to have 2 figures, one to show the progression of the images and another to add some more examples. but if thats too hard to do its ok. i can work with wahts there
+18:52 < Callum_> progression of 1 image*
+18:57 < Callum_> get that? :P
+18:59 < jtanx> sort of...
+18:59 < jtanx> I don't know
+18:59 < jtanx> split figure 2.17 into two
+19:00 < jtanx> you're updating the text?
+19:02 < Callum_> yea
+19:02 < Callum_> i can just leave it as 1 figure, iv switched F and C
+19:02 < jtanx> okay
+19:08 < Callum_> Also. I think the majority of this should be moved down into the results section
+19:08 < Callum_> so its actually next to/after what its referring to
+19:12 < Callum_> this automatically numbers stuff yea? so if i want to split a figure all i need to do is copy the format and halve it?
+19:12 < jtanx> I'm not sure
+19:12 < jtanx> but I'd think so
+19:12 < jtanx> so long as you name it appropriately
+19:12 < jtanx> do you have latex installed
+19:12 < Callum_> yea
+19:13 < jtanx> okay
+19:15 < Callum_> wait. bi'
+19:15 < Callum_> no
+19:15 < Callum_> i was saying yea to labelling
+19:15 < jtanx> right
+19:28 < Callum_> ok well iv fixed the referencing. just left it as 1 figure
+21:18 < Callum_> so when are we meeting tomorrow then?
+21:18 < jtanx> we have to
+21:18 < jtanx> oh right when
+21:18 < jtanx> I dunno
+21:18 < Callum_> haha
+21:51 < jtanx> before 5pm? :P
+21:51 < Callum_> sounds good. 4.59 it is :p
+21:52 < Callum_> but if we dont set a time il probably end up getting there around 11/12, maybe a bit earlier. depends when i can drag myself out of bad 
+21:52 < Callum_> bes
+21:52 < Callum_> ugh the place you sleep Dx
+21:53 < jtanx> haha
+21:54 < jtanx> okay, well 11am sounds good I guess
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+08:43 < sam_moore> The report looks good (enough)
+08:43 < jtanx> :S
+08:44 < sam_moore> I hope this is just a matter of showing up and printing it and there aren't any last minute "Edit the entire thing!" issues...
+08:44 < jtanx> Yeah, I hope not
+08:44 < sam_moore> Maybe I'll show up early and print it and then we can just hand it in once everyone arrives?
+08:44 < jtanx> That may work...
+08:44 < jtanx> How much does it cost to print it?
+08:44 < sam_moore> I don't even know
+08:44 < sam_moore> It would have to be in colour
+08:45 < sam_moore> So, 50c a page? 50 pages?
+08:46 < jtanx> about $4/person
+08:46 < sam_moore> Gah there are still mistakes in the glossary
+08:46 < sam_moore> I don't even care...
+08:47 < jtanx> Rowan never got around to fixing it... unless he plans to fix it when we meet?
+08:47 < jtanx> I was looking at the sensors team report... it's like 35MB and ~70 pages long
+08:49 < sam_moore> Huh
+08:49 < sam_moore> I guess they did do some stuff after all
+08:50 < sam_moore> :P
+08:50 < jtanx> :P
+08:50 < jtanx> just a small font issue again
+08:50 < jtanx> implemented –and
+08:50 < jtanx> that introduction paragraph
+08:50 < sam_moore> Yeah it sucks copy/pasting from openoffice into plain text
+08:51 < jtanx> Yeah
+08:51 < jtanx> it copied it as an en-dash and not hyphen-minus
+08:51 < sam_moore> Fixed
+08:51 < jtanx> Cool
+08:51 < sam_moore> I'll fix the glossary I guess
+08:51 < jtanx> :/
+08:51 < sam_moore> That will be the first thing anyone turns to when they are confused
+08:51 < sam_moore> And if it is wrong...
+08:52 < jtanx> ...
+08:55 < sam_moore> It's never bothered me until now that server/client refers not only to an individual process, but also to the physical machine it runs on
+08:56 < sam_moore> I wonder if it's clear what "server" we are talking about in context
+08:56 < sam_moore> (This is why I changed the "Server Configuration" to "BeagleBone Configuration"
+08:56 < jtanx> Yeah, that might get a bit confusing
+08:57 < jtanx> Hmm
+08:58 < jtanx> Server used in multiple contexts
+09:00 < jtanx> what else has our software on the bbb been referred to? I've just called it 'server program'
+09:05 < sam_moore> Yes, it's just always been called server, too late to change that now
+09:06 < sam_moore> It *is* a server
+09:07 < jtanx> Yeah
+09:07 < sam_moore> Ok, I don't need to explain "Operating System" in the glossary
+09:07 < sam_moore> I'll stop at "Threads"
+09:08 < sam_moore> I added CSS as well
+09:08 < jtanx> Ah... forgot about that one
+09:09 < sam_moore> That's it
+09:09 < sam_moore> No more changes!
+09:09 < sam_moore> It's done!
+09:09 < sam_moore> I'm putting it on a USB
+09:10 < sam_moore> As soon as I get to university I am going straight to the printers
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+11:07 < jtanx_> uhh
+11:07 < jtanx_> so where are we meeting
+11:13 < jtanx_> actually, never mind I've just seen the emails
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